For you Raimi fans, I just started a Xena tribe. I simply cannot believe that one didn't exist before now.
I just saw the series finale last night for the first time - I was pleased to see that they used the "monster cam" shot from Evil Dead 2, where you see the crashing progress of the monster through the forest from the creature's perspective. They even used the same growling noise!
Xena kicks ass.
I just saw the series finale last night for the first time - I was pleased to see that they used the "monster cam" shot from Evil Dead 2, where you see the crashing progress of the monster through the forest from the creature's perspective. They even used the same growling noise!
Xena kicks ass.
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Wed, May 19, 2004 - 3:21 PMdunno why but i could never stand this show. -
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Wed, May 19, 2004 - 3:50 PMYou probably just didn't get it. -
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Wed, May 19, 2004 - 3:53 PMeh i wasnt a big fan of it either, doesnt mean i didn't get it, just wasn't into it. -
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Wed, May 19, 2004 - 8:09 PMI probably just fucking hate Lucy Lawless. It was campy too. I got it. I'm majoring in cinema and theory. There isn't much I don't "get". -
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Wed, May 19, 2004 - 8:14 PMLucy Lawless is no Brigette Nielsen - Red Sonjia is woman who could kick some ass and sport a mean mullet to boot! Talk about camp....
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 9:02 AMI think my over-familiarity with the Greek and Roman pantheons and my passing familarity with actual history is what ruined both Xena and Hercules for me. Every alteration, every stretch of the facts, every stupid reinterpretation of mythology for cheap laughs made me wince in pain like a sore tooth.
Evil dead movies and Lovecraftian/Mythos stories in general are different because they are not "true." That is to say, they are an artistic (one might say genius) creation. I write mythos stories.... I have one come up in an anthology soon.
As a Pagan and Pantheist, I just have this to say about Xena and Hercules, et al... Don't go messin' with my myths, yo. :P lol -
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 10:20 AMBoy, you're a tough crowd!
Xena's flaws were obvious and loud, while its strengths took time to see. The core relationship between Xena and Gabrielle was organic, dynamic, deep, and complex. The show had something genuine to say about human problems, like redemption and regret.
It was stylistically innovative in a way that was sometimes preposterous, but sometimes penetrating and sharply engaging. It dealt maturely with several themes of real gravity, like the distinctly unfunny episode treating sexual slavery in the sixth season.
Last but not least, it was a dramatic world where women were strong, sexy, intelligent, confident, heroic, and complex. They did not require men for completion or fulfillment. How many shows on television can make that claim?
I'm a little surprised to hear all the criticism, since the series had Sam Raimi's fingerprints all over it in its technical and narrative content. -
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 10:33 AMI suppose you could just consider us gourmets rather than gormands.... -
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 10:45 AMGourmets?
This is the Evil Dead tribe, not the Citizen Kane tribe! -
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 11:23 AMhehe, well, least you didn't make a
Silence of the Lambs reference! heh
But what I meant was, just because someone
likes one thing, doesn't mean that person
will like everything.
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Bruce in Xena and Hercules
Fri, May 21, 2004 - 9:05 AMI watched Xena and Hercules only a few times outside of when Our Man Bruce was on (Atulacus the Thief, was it?) -- had to laugh at how much of his ED/AOD stuff was in there.
I also have to be a bit partial to Lucy tho just out of rooting for "tall" women -- being a 6'4" guy myself you keep hopeful about meeting a woman who's not lieing that she's as much as 5'2"... Not that I thought I was going to meet (the married) LLawless, or that she was necessarily my type even... but a tall attractive woman who's strong 'n' stuff? Hey now...!
What's a tall guy to do, aside from joining the TallPeople and Amazon/TallWomen tribes, and try glueing two hot short women together to try and make one tall georgous woman? *sigh* -
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Tue, August 10, 2004 - 3:09 PMI also try to catch the Joxer episodes with Ted Raimi. He & Bruce were the series highlights for me - and I thought the show was quite clever for what it was. After all, this is Renaissance Productions, not Bullfinch's Mythology.
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Tue, July 20, 2004 - 4:56 PMI adore Xena. Its my all time favorite show. I understand how many couldn't get into it, though. That type of show format (Xena, Smallville, Buffy) has inherent limitations. When they have climactic, dramatic episodes they can be transcendently satisfying, however, they can't have so much punch every week or it would get stale. So they have filler episodes. Many, many filler episodes. When I say I adore Xena, or smallville I really am just saying I love the episodes that are part of the dramatic continuity. I just forget the filler.
One more thing, "don't mess with my myths"??? I'm sorry but that is a contradiction in terms. I just assume that myth, as opposed to recorded historical fact, is subject to modification and adaptation to the self. A myth is a living thing that means something different to each individual in each age of history. A fact is just a boring fact.
Xena takes place "in a time of myth and legend" sure, they ludicrously stretch time frames to fit their own schemes, but their point is that "in a time of myth and legend" you don't have to stick to the textbook.
But hey, I ain't sayin' it not absolutely absurd. Xena does meet David and Goliath, Jesus, and Ceasar. Wow that chick gets around. -
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Tue, July 20, 2004 - 6:34 PMHmm, I think much of the US media exists "in a time of myth and legend"... I just wish that didn't apply to the news. I mean, hey, if we had accuracy, as asked for in Xena, think of all the stuff we'd be loosing out on.... That St. Patrick's Day in the US is a load of bull, that there is a lagit fire-arms owning community that is sane, that you don't have to reproduce just because you're human and breath air, that most programming is a load of fecis.... I'll stop while I'm ahead.
Subvert the dominant paridigm, and question authority... starting with the media -- "they ludicrously stretch" programming "to fit their own schemes" -
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Tue, July 20, 2004 - 8:03 PMXena rocks... and she married Rob Tapert, the one and only who was with Sam & Bruce at the beginning of this crazy stuff. Part of good ole' "Renaissance Productions" team, so you can't talk too much trash against the girl. Whoa whoa, slow down there, professor... -
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Tue, July 20, 2004 - 10:20 PM'Subvert the dominant paridigm, and question authority... starting with the media -- "they ludicrously stretch" programming "to fit their own schemes" '
I agree it's a problem when it's CNN or Fox News. Not so much with superhero programming.
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Tue, July 20, 2004 - 11:41 PM>Whoa whoa, slow down there, professor...
What's your professor doing to you, and can we get all the dirty details? ;) -
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Wed, July 21, 2004 - 6:16 PMTeachin' me a thing or two, that's what! -
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Thu, July 22, 2004 - 11:49 PMYeah? Does your professor have a sister? JK/LOL
How's your grades?
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Tue, August 10, 2004 - 10:19 AMWow, we got some very anti-Xena going on here. Please give me your addresses, so I can stalk you all down, and then show you how great the show was... Ok, fine be that way. Anyway, I think Xena was a great show with a lot of the same elements that made ED and AoD great. Especially from the filmmaking point of you. The genius of The Team is what made Xena and Hercules stand out from such wonders in awful shows as Beastmaster or Sheena: Queen of the Jungle. Ew. -
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Tue, August 10, 2004 - 12:49 PMHey Slice, It's all cool, kick back and relax your knee-bashin' jets -- to each their own you know, it's just not for me (and some others). I went out of my way to watch Xena/Hercules when I saw that Bruce was going to be on an episode (and that tall hot black chick that was on FireFly -- _MA'MA!_... or as said on the Hercules episode "Woof!" *purrr*), and yeah, I saw and got a good laugh out of the little swipes from EDs/AOD that were put into his Atulacus(sp?) charactre -- that made it fun for me. Probably for me, my big bitch about some of these shows is the same complaint as with a lot of TV/movies -- the low bar shiit that's on. Yeah yeah yeah, I know, I don't have to watch it, and I don't... but still, I think it brings us down as a greater society to have this stuff on.
As for BMaster -- I wish they used that dood on the movies -- I think he plays it better and doesn't have the last-chicken-on-the-shelf look that what-was-it Mark-somethin' in the movies had.
As for Sheena -- like the Spice Girls movie (I imagine as I never saw it), great to watch with the sound off... which is sayin' something 'cause I don't like blonds (see "_MA'MA!_"). -
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 11:46 AMBLASPHEMER! I liked Xena cause of their writing mostly. They had some pretty creative ways to look at things, and some good sattire. I think I might be a loser...
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Thu, August 19, 2004 - 8:16 PMYou got a thing for Gina Torres? That's cute. She rocked as Nebula in Hercules and was my favorite character in Firefly, except of Wash of course.
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Tue, September 21, 2004 - 11:35 PMXena rocked. It was so much better than Hercules, and with more or less the same budget and running in the same world. I've joined the tribe.
